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A letter from "Joe"

Hi, I need your opinion on two new boats we are looking at. The first is a Regal 1900 LSR. It has a 6 cyl, fuel injected MerCruiser and the other boat is a Four Winns 19ft Horizon. It has an 8 cyl, carbureted Volvo Engine. Both boats have I/Os. We are looking for a boat that is comfortable, smooth riding, well built, and easy to handle. I know both boats have a stepped hull, one more than the other. What I want to know is which boat do you think would handle better. I don't want a boat that has problems planing or one that has a tendency to bounce/pound in rough water. What would you recommend?

Thanks,
Joe

Response from Bill

Hi Joe

You are a smart buyer! If more boaters took the time to look at the practical side of the boat they buy, there would be more happy boaters.
That's the good news. The bad news is you are asking me, which is better - -
a Pontiac or a Chevrolet. Both boats should meet the criterion you ask about.
The answer is this: Take a test ride in each OR sign a deal subject to the boat
meeting your expectations.
The proof is in the pudding!

Thanks for the enquiry,
Bill.


PROBLEMS WITH MY CHAPARRAL

I purchased a new 1999 leftover 28 ft twin 350 MPI Chaparral cuddy last August. I have had many failure type problems with the boat. Far too many for a new boat. Examples: gas gauge sending unit replaced; all gauges are connected from engine to two "black computer boxes". All gauges failed this June due to failure of these boxes; dealer reports many are failing; drive fluid leaks on both drives; very poor quality of fit on carpeting and cockpit cover, etc.

What is most disgraceful is that Chaparral so called "customer service never returns calls from messages and doesn't even respond to faxed letters. They refused to help with the "black box problem, telling the dealer "you can probably get faster service going directly to the gauge manufacturer. It took 2 months of a short New Jersey summer to obtain two new black boxes. Of course if they fail again I'm again at the gauge manufacturer's mercy. Chaparral acts as if it isn't their fault that they chose to use an unusual system of gauges.

The bottom line is that Chaparral quality is very poor and they are an arrogant manufacturer that refuses to have any interest in their customers.

JT


A letter from "R"

I am looking for some type of comparison chart of ski boats. I'm familiar with auto ratings (Cadillac Vs Chevrolet) among the different manufacturers, but I don't know where there is a list ranking the boat brand names.

I have a 1990 Sunbird 150SPL and I am looking to upgrade. Can you provide any type of listing?

R

Response from Bill

Dear R

Actually, such a comparison does not exist. It would be a great help in sorting out the manufacturer's claims, but even the water ski magazine comparisons of things like wake and pull, have to stay unspecific when it comes to ratings, in consideration of the boat manufacturer advertising revenues. Then too, there would have to be a broad cross section of skiers in the tests, since we all have our own subjective opinions about which boat we like best. I think the answer would be for you to come up with funding for a ski test project, then you could join our team and do the ski boat comparison ratings.
Thanks for writing.

Bill.


A letter from "D"

Hello,

I have a 2000, 18'6" Chaparral boat. I love it, it is smooth, quick out of the hole and comfortable. I think the service lacks some follow through with repairs of small problems. This is my third boat, I have had a Larson and a Bayliner. Without reservation it has been the best of the bunch.

"D"

Response from Bill

Hi "D",

Thanks for letting our readers know you are happy with your Chaparral.
They are a splendid boat, aren't they?
Keep in mind though, that in recent years, the major boat manufacturers have made such dramatic improvements in both design, and quality of construction, that it is never fair to compare a new boat with one of an earlier vintage.

Happy boating,
Bill.

Glacier Bay Fuel Tank Leaks

I own a 97 Glacier Bay 220. Last month we discovered the starboard fuel tank was leaking. Upon removing the tank we found that the factory had failed to install a fiberglass "bumper" in the fuel tank compartment. The screws holding the tank down had backed out allowing the tank to move around in the compartment since the bumpers were not there to prevent movement. The motion of the tank against the fiberglass lapping next to the tank rubbed a hole through the aluminum and the tank leaked. We also discovered some cracks in the compartments forward of the tank which do not appear to be related, as they are on both sides of the boat. There are also some cracks thru the gelcoat on the outside of the hull where both hulls attach to the top of the tunnel. Glacier Bay has been really great about the repairs so far. They had a new fuel tank manufactured and shipped down to me and one of their local structural fiberglass people here in Texas is picking the boat up today to install the new tank and repair the cracks. Have there been other Glacier Bays with this problem? The obvious question on my mind is whether the tank on the port side was installed the same way and what is causing those cracks in the hull? The boat has never hit anything harder than a 6 foot wave, we only trailer it about an eighth of a mile from dry storage to boat ramp and it handles beautifully in just about any kind of seas. Any others out there like mine?

JB in Houston


A letter from "K"

We are considering buying a used boat and I could use your help.

We have looked at several boats and have it narrowed down to 2. A 1997 Four Winns Horizon and a 2000 VIP. I have read your ratings on Four Winns boats but have not found any information about VIP. The price is basically the same. I think the VIP is the better deal but the Four Winns seems much bigger inside but it has no carpet. I think that could be easily remedied. Either have carpet put in or have the rhino liner sprayed in. What's your opinion?

Thanks,
K

Response from Bill

Hi K

In your note questioning which boat to choose, there were a lot of things missing on your list of considerations. Maybe if you give yourself honest answers to the following, you will have enough confidence to decide.

Has an independent surveyor passed his opinion on the condition of each boat? It is a small price to pay, relative to the total cost and dollar risk. Don't buy one if it "needs a little work". If both are in top condition, factor in a 15% a year depreciation from the original list price on each, to see what the asking price should be. Comparing that number to what they want, will tell you which is really the best deal. Also, remember, clean three year old boats are often a good deal because, the steep side of the depreciation curve is already gone.

Is the dollar budget an important factor? If not, it is always nice to buy the newest. There should be some warranty left. Get it in writing.

The person that you would most likely sell this boat to when you do, will probably be more concerned with performance than with carpets. I personally find that carpets collect dust and stains, while a non-skid glass cockpit can be hosed out and forgotten.

One last tip. Don't be afraid to negotiate.

Happy decisions,
Bill.


A letter from "S.B."

We own a Liberator and my husband is not happy with the MPH he gets out of it. He says it should top out at 50 MPH and he is only getting 47 MPH. Is this info right? He is driving me crazy with everything he is experimenting with to get it to go faster. I just tell him he's stuck with a slow boat. He won't have it! Do you have any suggestions?

Hope you can help!

S.B.

Response from Bill

Dear S.

Your husband is right !!
No self respecting guy wants to fall 3 mph short of the big '5-0' mark If you e-mail me the propeller size and its material, along with the rpm's that the boat will run wide open throttle, I may have a propeller recommendation to make up the miles.
Another way to get those extra couple of miles might be to let you drive.

Keep in mind though, that once he reaches 50 mph, the goal will move to 60.

Happy motoring,
Bill.

 

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